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The two men that you reference were not "good guys". That's the difference. They were not trained security officials. They were crazy old men. Do you really think the outcome would have been any different if he had brought a knife or baseball bat over to that van? There are too many variables that could maybe stop violence. Thing is, it is literally impossible to stop all of the variables. Harp on the nra all you want. It's pure ignorance to think that a armed a police officer at that school in Newtown wouldn't have made a difference. Take Away his mom's guns and he just builds a bomb. Or waits 2 years till he can "print" his own gun on a 3d printer. Criminals don't follow the law!! For proof, just look at Chicago and LA... Two of the strictest gun laws in the country hard at work there. Lol. Look at facts people. Use your brain.